Comments on: What Would Kant Think of Israel? http://blog.z-word.com/2010/08/what-would-kant-think-of-israel/ Commentary about Zionism, anti-Zionism, antisemitism and the conflict in the Middle East Thu, 24 May 2012 04:52:05 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5-RC1.1 By: Yellow Boy http://blog.z-word.com/2010/08/what-would-kant-think-of-israel/#comment-14683 Yellow Boy Tue, 17 Aug 2010 08:10:21 +0000 http://blog.z-word.com/?p=1698#comment-14683 I agree that Hazony is reframing an otherwise sterile debate, it also helps that his tone is not as shrill as usual. However, I think that tensions between lessons learned from World War II and the Holocaust have a broader impact on today’s politics than ‘just’ the case of Israel, and I think that point has been made elsewhere. We just need to join the dots. In ‘Utopia or Auschwitz: Germany's 1968 Generation and the Holocaust’ Hans Kundnani examines the struggle of that group in Germany and a tension appears between two moral responses to the Holocaust, summed up by the slogans ‘No More War!’ and ‘No More Auschwitz!’. This clearly fits the picture described by Hazony with the development of the EU and the establishment of the State of Israel respectively, but it also describes how and why tensions arose within the German Green Party during the Balkan conflict, and the idea of liberal military intervention in general. Kundnani is dealing with these issues from the point of view of the left, but I don’t believe this is a specifically left wing issue, indeed as Hazony shows IMO). I agree that Hazony is reframing an otherwise sterile debate, it also helps that his tone is not as shrill as usual. However, I think that tensions between lessons learned from World War II and the Holocaust have a broader impact on today’s politics than ‘just’ the case of Israel, and I think that point has been made elsewhere. We just need to join the dots.

In ‘Utopia or Auschwitz: Germany’s 1968 Generation and the Holocaust’ Hans Kundnani examines the struggle of that group in Germany and a tension appears between two moral responses to the Holocaust, summed up by the slogans ‘No More War!’ and ‘No More Auschwitz!’. This clearly fits the picture described by Hazony with the development of the EU and the establishment of the State of Israel respectively, but it also describes how and why tensions arose within the German Green Party during the Balkan conflict, and the idea of liberal military intervention in general. Kundnani is dealing with these issues from the point of view of the left, but I don’t believe this is a specifically left wing issue, indeed as Hazony shows IMO).

]]> By: ganselmi http://blog.z-word.com/2010/08/what-would-kant-think-of-israel/#comment-14640 ganselmi Mon, 16 Aug 2010 01:02:03 +0000 http://blog.z-word.com/?p=1698#comment-14640 "Ben Cohen, Columnist and Level 6 Cog in the Zionist Propaganda Machine" Almost died laughing. “Ben Cohen, Columnist and Level 6 Cog in the Zionist Propaganda Machine”

Almost died laughing.

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