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	<title>Comments on: The Two Eduardos And An Unfortunate Choice of Words</title>
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	<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2012 20:32:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Gerardo Quesada</title>
		<link>http://blog.z-word.com/2010/01/the-two-eduardos-and-an-unfortunate-choice-of-words/#comment-9553</link>
		<dc:creator>Gerardo Quesada</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 17:57:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Except that the judges were not asked to decide if the outburst was antisemitic. They were asked to decide if it amounted to an encouragement or incitement to persecution or hate against a person or group of persons.

Since the exchange took place in the context of a private conversation, the inflammatory comments can't possibly be interpreted as influencing other people, which is what encouragement or incitement are about.

Please don't find antisemitism where there's none.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Except that the judges were not asked to decide if the outburst was antisemitic. They were asked to decide if it amounted to an encouragement or incitement to persecution or hate against a person or group of persons.</p>
<p>Since the exchange took place in the context of a private conversation, the inflammatory comments can&#8217;t possibly be interpreted as influencing other people, which is what encouragement or incitement are about.</p>
<p>Please don&#8217;t find antisemitism where there&#8217;s none.</p>
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		<title>By: Noga</title>
		<link>http://blog.z-word.com/2010/01/the-two-eduardos-and-an-unfortunate-choice-of-words/#comment-9444</link>
		<dc:creator>Noga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 16:20:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Based on some personal experience I'd like to offer a possible explanation:

I once witnessed an eruption from someone who considered herself the epitome of compassionate humanism against another she hated for political reasons. Said target revealed on-line that she had a minor birth defect. The revelation then was picked up as a rhetorical weapon intended to shame and dehumanize that person who was then repeatedly and contemptuously referred to as "the cripple". The abuser was exonerated by politically like-minded posters who excused her behaviour as merited by the horridness of the other person.

I suppose for some people, Jewishness is some sort of a minor birth defect. People can live with such a person as long as that person does not cause them any perceived or actual harm. Once that treshhold is breached, and the blood boils, no such restraint is called for. In the mind of the aggrieved party, the alleged transgressor has forfeited any claim to civility or indeed humanity and is totally stripped of any such rights for consideration. The relationship has entered into a phase of no holds barred and nothing is counted as beyond the pale as far as the need to insult, humiliate, intimidate is concerned. And if it has to be done through that person's weakest feature, then more power to it.

The antisemitism of the person who uttered these words is explicit and beyond doubt. Then there are the judges who forgive the abuser based on a shared premise that Jews are indeed congenitally handicapped a should be extra careful how they comport themselves so as not to provoke the baser and uglier instincts of their fellow humans. 

I am reminded of Alan Furst's novel "Kingdom of Shadows", where I found the following quote:

"The last week, in May, the Hungarian parliament had passed a law restricting Jewish employment in private companies to twenty percent of the workforce.

"Shameful," Morath said "But the government had to do something, something symbolic, or the Hungarian Nazis would have staged a coup d'etat"

Balki read further. "Who is count Bethlen?"

"A conservative. Against the radical right." Morath didn't mention Bethlen's well-known definition of the anti-Semite as "one who detests Jews more than necessary."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Based on some personal experience I&#8217;d like to offer a possible explanation:</p>
<p>I once witnessed an eruption from someone who considered herself the epitome of compassionate humanism against another she hated for political reasons. Said target revealed on-line that she had a minor birth defect. The revelation then was picked up as a rhetorical weapon intended to shame and dehumanize that person who was then repeatedly and contemptuously referred to as &#8220;the cripple&#8221;. The abuser was exonerated by politically like-minded posters who excused her behaviour as merited by the horridness of the other person.</p>
<p>I suppose for some people, Jewishness is some sort of a minor birth defect. People can live with such a person as long as that person does not cause them any perceived or actual harm. Once that treshhold is breached, and the blood boils, no such restraint is called for. In the mind of the aggrieved party, the alleged transgressor has forfeited any claim to civility or indeed humanity and is totally stripped of any such rights for consideration. The relationship has entered into a phase of no holds barred and nothing is counted as beyond the pale as far as the need to insult, humiliate, intimidate is concerned. And if it has to be done through that person&#8217;s weakest feature, then more power to it.</p>
<p>The antisemitism of the person who uttered these words is explicit and beyond doubt. Then there are the judges who forgive the abuser based on a shared premise that Jews are indeed congenitally handicapped a should be extra careful how they comport themselves so as not to provoke the baser and uglier instincts of their fellow humans. </p>
<p>I am reminded of Alan Furst&#8217;s novel &#8220;Kingdom of Shadows&#8221;, where I found the following quote:</p>
<p>&#8220;The last week, in May, the Hungarian parliament had passed a law restricting Jewish employment in private companies to twenty percent of the workforce.</p>
<p>&#8220;Shameful,&#8221; Morath said &#8220;But the government had to do something, something symbolic, or the Hungarian Nazis would have staged a coup d&#8217;etat&#8221;</p>
<p>Balki read further. &#8220;Who is count Bethlen?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;A conservative. Against the radical right.&#8221; Morath didn&#8217;t mention Bethlen&#8217;s well-known definition of the anti-Semite as &#8220;one who detests Jews more than necessary.&#8221;</p>
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