Comments on: Long Live the Dahiya Doctrine! http://blog.z-word.com/2009/10/long-live-the-dahiya-doctrine/ Commentary about Zionism, anti-Zionism, antisemitism and the conflict in the Middle East Thu, 09 Feb 2012 11:49:41 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5-RC1.1 By: Israel, Lebanon And Deterrence at Z-Word Blog http://blog.z-word.com/2009/10/long-live-the-dahiya-doctrine/#comment-14237 Israel, Lebanon And Deterrence at Z-Word Blog Wed, 04 Aug 2010 19:19:49 +0000 http://blog.z-word.com/?p=1438#comment-14237 [...] by F16s bombing Lebanon in response may be  attributable, among other things, to the Dahiya doctrine; Israel’s stated intention to use disproportionate force (perhaps I should say “really [...] […] by F16s bombing Lebanon in response may be  attributable, among other things, to the Dahiya doctrine; Israel’s stated intention to use disproportionate force (perhaps I should say “really […]

]]> By: William Smart http://blog.z-word.com/2009/10/long-live-the-dahiya-doctrine/#comment-8968 William Smart Sun, 20 Dec 2009 21:42:13 +0000 http://blog.z-word.com/?p=1438#comment-8968 Israel has gone to a lot of trouble trying to persuade the world that it's a "Light unto nations". It used to have a certain amount of success. But boasts of operating the "Dahiya doctrine" (and threatening Gaza with a Shoa) make Israel look more and more like a pariah nation. Israel has gone to a lot of trouble trying to persuade the world that it’s a “Light unto nations”. It used to have a certain amount of success. But boasts of operating the “Dahiya doctrine” (and threatening Gaza with a Shoa) make Israel look more and more like a pariah nation.

]]> By: Adam Levick http://blog.z-word.com/2009/10/long-live-the-dahiya-doctrine/#comment-7628 Adam Levick Mon, 26 Oct 2009 15:16:29 +0000 http://blog.z-word.com/?p=1438#comment-7628 Thanks for the info about Blankfort, Ben. Also, thanks to Jacob for noting that Weiss (who I am familiar with), actually has penned pieces in Buchanan's paleoconservative rag. I'm also quite familiar with Adam Horowitz at Mondoweiss. Horowitz, in his role with Amer Friends Service Committee, organized a Sabeel Conference, where the likes of Jeff Halper and Marc Ellis waxed poetically about how Israel is really no different from Nazi Germany. And, Halper, at that same Sabeel Conf, refused, when asked, to condemn terrorist attacks on Israeli children as young as 4. (I was there monitoring the event) The ''socialism of fools'' doesn't begin to describe it. Thanks for the info about Blankfort, Ben. Also, thanks to Jacob for noting that Weiss (who I am familiar with), actually has penned pieces in Buchanan’s paleoconservative rag.

I’m also quite familiar with Adam Horowitz at Mondoweiss. Horowitz, in his role with Amer Friends Service Committee, organized a Sabeel Conference, where the likes of Jeff Halper and Marc Ellis waxed poetically about how Israel is really no different from Nazi Germany. And, Halper, at that same Sabeel Conf, refused, when asked, to condemn terrorist attacks on Israeli children as young as 4. (I was there monitoring the event) The ‘’socialism of fools” doesn’t begin to describe it.

]]> By: Chris Barel http://blog.z-word.com/2009/10/long-live-the-dahiya-doctrine/#comment-7623 Chris Barel Mon, 26 Oct 2009 11:05:58 +0000 http://blog.z-word.com/?p=1438#comment-7623 This is a policy I have long advocated. It seems that the majority of Gazans willingly voted for a party dedicated to genocide. This is a policy I have long advocated. It seems that the majority of Gazans willingly voted for a party dedicated to genocide.

]]> By: Jacob Arnon http://blog.z-word.com/2009/10/long-live-the-dahiya-doctrine/#comment-7607 Jacob Arnon Sat, 24 Oct 2009 22:09:56 +0000 http://blog.z-word.com/?p=1438#comment-7607 I don't know who Jeff Blankfort is but from his post I would guess that it would be a waste of my time to answer his simplistic message. As for Philip Weiss, there is something insane with a "Jewish" blogger who defends Patrick Buchanan against charges of antisemitism (he writes anti Israel columns for Buchanan's online magazine) http://www.amconmag.com/search.html?v&m=2&search=philip+weiss&start=0&end=25 and is quoted by stormfront (the pro Nazi website): http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?t=540611&page=2 and here http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?p=6093346#post6093346 Philip Weiss has written that all Jews should assimilate at the New York Observer (before he was fired from that magazine) and believes erroneously that Norman Mailer "assimilated" (gave up being Jewish) and should not be considered a Jewish writer. I don’t know if Philip Weiss is an antisemite but he certainly loves the company of antisemites. I don’t know who Jeff Blankfort is but from his post I would guess that it would be a waste of my time to answer his simplistic message.

As for Philip Weiss, there is something insane with a “Jewish” blogger who defends Patrick Buchanan against charges of antisemitism (he writes anti Israel columns for Buchanan’s online magazine)

http://www.amconmag.com/search.html?v&m=2&search=philip+weiss&start=0&end=25

and is quoted by stormfront (the pro Nazi website):

http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?t=540611&page=2

and here

http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?p=6093346#post6093346

Philip Weiss has written that all Jews should assimilate at the New York Observer (before he was fired from that magazine) and believes erroneously that Norman Mailer “assimilated” (gave up being Jewish) and should not be considered a Jewish writer.

I don’t know if Philip Weiss is an antisemite but he certainly loves the company of antisemites.

]]> By: Ben Cohen http://blog.z-word.com/2009/10/long-live-the-dahiya-doctrine/#comment-7606 Ben Cohen Sat, 24 Oct 2009 21:23:57 +0000 http://blog.z-word.com/?p=1438#comment-7606 Just so readers know, the Jeff who wrote the comment above is Jeffrey Blankfort, one of the more, shall we say, eccentric anti-Zionists in America. He is a fervent believer in the doctrine that Zionists control America and he does things like counting the number of Jews in Congress. And if his comment is anything to go by, he is now fantasizing about the violent elimination of the State of Israel and its population. Our readers like to engage in debate and we encourage that. And if anyone out there wants to argue with Jeff, go ahead. My own view is that, when it comes to folk like this, it ain't worth it - if you want to get a flavor of the kind of company Jeff keeps, have a look at http://www.marwenmedia.com/, a site which manages to be both laughable and nauseating. There is a good deal of <i>dreck</i> coming to Z Word by way of Mondoweiss - note that Morsi dutifully follows his master's stunningly original formulation, asking us whether we come from the "same planet" - which probably explains why some of the comments above are big on heat and woefully short on light. Just so readers know, the Jeff who wrote the comment above is Jeffrey Blankfort, one of the more, shall we say, eccentric anti-Zionists in America. He is a fervent believer in the doctrine that Zionists control America and he does things like counting the number of Jews in Congress. And if his comment is anything to go by, he is now fantasizing about the violent elimination of the State of Israel and its population.

Our readers like to engage in debate and we encourage that. And if anyone out there wants to argue with Jeff, go ahead. My own view is that, when it comes to folk like this, it ain’t worth it - if you want to get a flavor of the kind of company Jeff keeps, have a look at http://www.marwenmedia.com/, a site which manages to be both laughable and nauseating. There is a good deal of dreck coming to Z Word by way of Mondoweiss - note that Morsi dutifully follows his master’s stunningly original formulation, asking us whether we come from the “same planet” - which probably explains why some of the comments above are big on heat and woefully short on light.

]]> By: Jeff http://blog.z-word.com/2009/10/long-live-the-dahiya-doctrine/#comment-7605 Jeff Sat, 24 Oct 2009 20:59:42 +0000 http://blog.z-word.com/?p=1438#comment-7605 Having personally seen what Israeli bombs did to Dahiya a year later and having also seen what Israeli bombs did to the Fakhani section of Beirut in their 1982 war on Lebanon, I can only say to those Israelis and their supporters who support such crimes of war and against humanity, what goes around comes around. It is not just the Palestinians that have been zionism's victims but the people of Lebanon, as well. And they haven't either forgotten or forgiven. Having personally seen what Israeli bombs did to Dahiya a year later and having also seen what Israeli bombs did to the Fakhani section of Beirut in their 1982 war on Lebanon, I can only say to those Israelis and their supporters who support such crimes of war and against humanity, what goes around comes around. It is not just the Palestinians that have been zionism’s victims but the people of Lebanon, as well. And they haven’t either forgotten or forgiven.

]]> By: Jacob Arnon http://blog.z-word.com/2009/10/long-live-the-dahiya-doctrine/#comment-7603 Jacob Arnon Sat, 24 Oct 2009 16:30:49 +0000 http://blog.z-word.com/?p=1438#comment-7603 A Morsi “Do you guys come from the same planet?” Probably not since you say: “Peace treaties were signed after the war and the pressure made by the Arab countries on the oil Market.” You are probably talking about the war of 73. If this is the case then you are completely off about what created the condition for a peace agreement between Egypt and Israel. The oil embargo had little or nothing to do with it since Egypt was ostracized by the Arab world after it signed a peace agreement. What created the condition for such an agreement was, first the defeat of 73, and second Sadat’s desire to break his country’s dependence on the Soviet Union. IN any case the embargo took place in 73 and the peace accord wasn’t signed till 1979. “Your war logic is taking you nowhere.” It’s not Eamonn who got the historical facts wrong, Morsi. A Morsi “Do you guys come from the same planet?”

Probably not since you say:

“Peace treaties were signed after the war and the pressure made by the Arab countries on the oil Market.”

You are probably talking about the war of 73. If this is the case then you are completely off about what created the condition for a peace agreement between Egypt and Israel.

The oil embargo had little or nothing to do with it since Egypt was ostracized by the Arab world after it signed a peace agreement.

What created the condition for such an agreement was, first the defeat of 73, and second Sadat’s desire to break his country’s dependence on the Soviet Union. IN any case the embargo took place in 73 and the peace accord wasn’t signed till 1979.

“Your war logic is taking you nowhere.”

It’s not Eamonn who got the historical facts wrong, Morsi.

]]> By: Jacob Arnon http://blog.z-word.com/2009/10/long-live-the-dahiya-doctrine/#comment-7602 Jacob Arnon Sat, 24 Oct 2009 16:20:41 +0000 http://blog.z-word.com/?p=1438#comment-7602 kitty "Would you recommend the same treatment for Israeli aggression?" You obviously would, since you can't tell the difference between aggression (being attacked by Arab armies in (1948, 1967, and 1973) as well as by Arab supported Arab terrorism since 1947, and a people trying to defend itself against another promised Genocide. kitty “Would you recommend the same treatment for Israeli aggression?”

You obviously would, since you can’t tell the difference between aggression (being attacked by Arab armies in (1948, 1967, and 1973) as well as by Arab supported Arab terrorism since 1947, and a people trying to defend itself against another promised Genocide.

]]> By: A Morsi http://blog.z-word.com/2009/10/long-live-the-dahiya-doctrine/#comment-7600 A Morsi Sat, 24 Oct 2009 12:10:43 +0000 http://blog.z-word.com/?p=1438#comment-7600 “Never mind that Egypt and Jordan long since grew sick of defeat and signed peace treaties with the Jewish state, never mind that Syria, with the partial exception of the First Lebanon War, hasn’t risked a direct confrontation with Israel since 1973 and never mind that part of the leadership of the Palestinians accepts Israel´s existence; victory is still seen as making Israel weak and its enemies strong.” Do you guys come from the same planet? Peace treaties were signed after the war and the pressure made by the Arab countries on the oil Market. Your war logic is taking you nowhere. “Never mind that Egypt and Jordan long since grew sick of defeat and signed peace treaties with the Jewish state, never mind that Syria, with the partial exception of the First Lebanon War, hasn’t risked a direct confrontation with Israel since 1973 and never mind that part of the leadership of the Palestinians accepts Israel´s existence; victory is still seen as making Israel weak and its enemies strong.”

Do you guys come from the same planet? Peace treaties were signed after the war and the pressure made by the Arab countries on the oil Market. Your war logic is taking you nowhere.

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