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	<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 12:41:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Iranian Regime&#8217;s Cacophony at Z-Word Blog</title>
		<link>http://blog.z-word.com/2009/09/should-we-boycott-the-boycotters/#comment-9704</link>
		<dc:creator>Iranian Regime&#8217;s Cacophony at Z-Word Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 15:51:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] points out, protests did greet the orchestra in certain cities, but I&#8217;m not aware of Naomi Klein, Brian Eno, John Pilger or any other minor radical celebrity urging a [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] points out, protests did greet the orchestra in certain cities, but I&#8217;m not aware of Naomi Klein, Brian Eno, John Pilger or any other minor radical celebrity urging a [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Noga</title>
		<link>http://blog.z-word.com/2009/09/should-we-boycott-the-boycotters/#comment-6841</link>
		<dc:creator>Noga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 17:16:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One also wonders why the boycotters picked on TIFF to make their point.

Tel Aviv was designated a UNESCO World Heritage site a few years ago. Why not try to boycott the UN as well, then?

http://archrecord.construction.com/news/daily/archives/080421bauhaus.asp</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One also wonders why the boycotters picked on TIFF to make their point.</p>
<p>Tel Aviv was designated a UNESCO World Heritage site a few years ago. Why not try to boycott the UN as well, then?</p>
<p><a href="http://archrecord.construction.com/news/daily/archives/080421bauhaus.asp" rel="nofollow">http://archrecord.construction.com/news/daily/archives/080421bauhaus.asp</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jacob-Alain</title>
		<link>http://blog.z-word.com/2009/09/should-we-boycott-the-boycotters/#comment-6839</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacob-Alain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 16:53:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lynne T 
 
"Years ago Bertrand Russell noted and cautioned against the left-liberal tendancy to confer “superior virtue” on “the righteous oppressed”. This mindset probably explains the phenom of Jewish intellectuals like Trilling taking the likes of Ed Said at face value, rather than subjecting their claims to the same scrutiny they would apply to those who can’t claim to be among “the wretched of the earth”."


I agree with Russell’s view, Lynne.


However, Trilling anti-Zionism is more of a piece with his own desire to deny his own status as one of the “wretched of the earth” than by supporting them. 

Trilling was himself the subject of antisemitic attacks at Columbia U and it was only because the President of the University intervened that he became the first Jewish professor in that department. 


Many Jewish intellectuals believe that by taking the side of the "oppressed" they can escape the fate of other Jews.  This is what is behind the anti-Zionism of many Jews.  They like to see themselves as citizen of the world (yet they would never deny the citizenship of whatever country in which they reside, be it the US, England, Canada, etc.) They practice  “universal values” only in relation to Israel. 


Their position is motivated by cowardice and justified by  hypocrisy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lynne T </p>
<p>&#8220;Years ago Bertrand Russell noted and cautioned against the left-liberal tendancy to confer “superior virtue” on “the righteous oppressed”. This mindset probably explains the phenom of Jewish intellectuals like Trilling taking the likes of Ed Said at face value, rather than subjecting their claims to the same scrutiny they would apply to those who can’t claim to be among “the wretched of the earth”.&#8221;</p>
<p>I agree with Russell’s view, Lynne.</p>
<p>However, Trilling anti-Zionism is more of a piece with his own desire to deny his own status as one of the “wretched of the earth” than by supporting them. </p>
<p>Trilling was himself the subject of antisemitic attacks at Columbia U and it was only because the President of the University intervened that he became the first Jewish professor in that department. </p>
<p>Many Jewish intellectuals believe that by taking the side of the &#8220;oppressed&#8221; they can escape the fate of other Jews.  This is what is behind the anti-Zionism of many Jews.  They like to see themselves as citizen of the world (yet they would never deny the citizenship of whatever country in which they reside, be it the US, England, Canada, etc.) They practice  “universal values” only in relation to Israel. </p>
<p>Their position is motivated by cowardice and justified by  hypocrisy.</p>
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		<title>By: Lynne T</title>
		<link>http://blog.z-word.com/2009/09/should-we-boycott-the-boycotters/#comment-6838</link>
		<dc:creator>Lynne T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 12:23:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Toronto Star, a newspaper not exactly seen as a supporter of Israel, took the pro-boycotters to task for, among other things, trying to legitimize the boycott proposal by casting Tel Aviv as stolen land. 

http://www.thestar.com/article/692083</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Toronto Star, a newspaper not exactly seen as a supporter of Israel, took the pro-boycotters to task for, among other things, trying to legitimize the boycott proposal by casting Tel Aviv as stolen land. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.thestar.com/article/692083" rel="nofollow">http://www.thestar.com/article/692083</a></p>
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		<title>By: Lynne T</title>
		<link>http://blog.z-word.com/2009/09/should-we-boycott-the-boycotters/#comment-6837</link>
		<dc:creator>Lynne T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 12:13:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jacob-Alain:

Years ago Bertrand Russell noted and cautioned against the left-liberal tendancy to confer "superior virtue" on "the righteous oppressed". This mindset probably explains the phenom of Jewish intellectuals like Trilling taking the likes of Ed Said at face value, rather than subjecting their claims to the same scrutiny they would apply to those who can't claim to be among "the wretched of the earth".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jacob-Alain:</p>
<p>Years ago Bertrand Russell noted and cautioned against the left-liberal tendancy to confer &#8220;superior virtue&#8221; on &#8220;the righteous oppressed&#8221;. This mindset probably explains the phenom of Jewish intellectuals like Trilling taking the likes of Ed Said at face value, rather than subjecting their claims to the same scrutiny they would apply to those who can&#8217;t claim to be among &#8220;the wretched of the earth&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Jacob-Alain</title>
		<link>http://blog.z-word.com/2009/09/should-we-boycott-the-boycotters/#comment-6834</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacob-Alain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 01:57:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just came across this little gem about an inveterate Israel hater working at a "human rights organization"


WHY IS HUMAN RIGHT'S OFFICIAL POSTING ON NAZI WEBSITES?


"ORIGINAL: There are two Marc Garlascos on the Internet. One is a top human rights investigator who, having joined Human Rights Watch after several years with the Pentagon, has become known for his shrill attacks on Israel. The other is a Marc Garlasco who's obsessed with the color and pageantry of Nazism, has published a detailed 430 page book on Nazi war paraphernalia, and participates in forums for Nazi souvenir collectors."

Read the whole thing, here:



http://www.mererhetoric.com/archives/11275875.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just came across this little gem about an inveterate Israel hater working at a &#8220;human rights organization&#8221;</p>
<p>WHY IS HUMAN RIGHT&#8217;S OFFICIAL POSTING ON NAZI WEBSITES?</p>
<p>&#8220;ORIGINAL: There are two Marc Garlascos on the Internet. One is a top human rights investigator who, having joined Human Rights Watch after several years with the Pentagon, has become known for his shrill attacks on Israel. The other is a Marc Garlasco who&#8217;s obsessed with the color and pageantry of Nazism, has published a detailed 430 page book on Nazi war paraphernalia, and participates in forums for Nazi souvenir collectors.&#8221;</p>
<p>Read the whole thing, here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.mererhetoric.com/archives/11275875.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.mererhetoric.com/archives/11275875.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jacob-Alain</title>
		<link>http://blog.z-word.com/2009/09/should-we-boycott-the-boycotters/#comment-6833</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacob-Alain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 20:41:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Jane Fonda is a friend of Vannessa Redgrave and Danny Glover is a friend of Mel Gibson."

It's not about individuals, or at least not only about individuals, Noga. 

We need a good history of anti-Zionism among intellectuals in the US (or even in North America) lacking that we have no way of knowing what's behind all this Israel hatred. 


I do know that such hatred goes far back at least to the 1920's. Lionel Trilling has written that he and his friends were on the side of the Arabs during the late 20's Hebron massacre. I doubt many people are aware of that.


It's also no coincidence that many of these intellectuals were also one time Trotskyites who didn’t see much difference between Stalin and Hitler at the beginning of WW2.


One more thing, Trilling brought Edward said to Colombia. Nuf said. (Pun is intentional.)


I hope some Jewish organization will commission a study of anti Zionism among Jewish intellectuals in the US the way that they commissioned a study of antisemitism in 1945 from the Frankfurt School.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Jane Fonda is a friend of Vannessa Redgrave and Danny Glover is a friend of Mel Gibson.&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not about individuals, or at least not only about individuals, Noga. </p>
<p>We need a good history of anti-Zionism among intellectuals in the US (or even in North America) lacking that we have no way of knowing what&#8217;s behind all this Israel hatred. </p>
<p>I do know that such hatred goes far back at least to the 1920&#8217;s. Lionel Trilling has written that he and his friends were on the side of the Arabs during the late 20&#8217;s Hebron massacre. I doubt many people are aware of that.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s also no coincidence that many of these intellectuals were also one time Trotskyites who didn’t see much difference between Stalin and Hitler at the beginning of WW2.</p>
<p>One more thing, Trilling brought Edward said to Colombia. Nuf said. (Pun is intentional.)</p>
<p>I hope some Jewish organization will commission a study of anti Zionism among Jewish intellectuals in the US the way that they commissioned a study of antisemitism in 1945 from the Frankfurt School.</p>
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		<title>By: Lynne T</title>
		<link>http://blog.z-word.com/2009/09/should-we-boycott-the-boycotters/#comment-6829</link>
		<dc:creator>Lynne T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 16:51:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As he has done in the past, Canadian movie reviewer Bruce Kirkland rightly labelled the boycotters as ignorant, noting that while City-to-City Tel Aviv didn't include "balance" via Palestinian filmmakers, TIFF 2009 does include entries by Palestinian and Lebanese filmmakers whose films are critical of Israel, and that the City-to-City entries, although all made by Jewish Israelis, included films that were critical of Israel, providing balance.

The boycott call backfired anyway. Tickets to City-to-City TA sold out last week.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As he has done in the past, Canadian movie reviewer Bruce Kirkland rightly labelled the boycotters as ignorant, noting that while City-to-City Tel Aviv didn&#8217;t include &#8220;balance&#8221; via Palestinian filmmakers, TIFF 2009 does include entries by Palestinian and Lebanese filmmakers whose films are critical of Israel, and that the City-to-City entries, although all made by Jewish Israelis, included films that were critical of Israel, providing balance.</p>
<p>The boycott call backfired anyway. Tickets to City-to-City TA sold out last week.</p>
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		<title>By: Noga</title>
		<link>http://blog.z-word.com/2009/09/should-we-boycott-the-boycotters/#comment-6803</link>
		<dc:creator>Noga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 11:26:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a thought: Jane Fonda is a friend of Vannessa Redgrave and Danny Glover is a friend of Mel Gibson. Redgrave and Gibson have both added notoriety to their fame by indulging in rants: 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOwH-46ovlo 

http://www.tmz.com/2006/07/28/gibsons-anti-semitic-tirade-alleged-cover-up/

Birds of a feather, and all that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a thought: Jane Fonda is a friend of Vannessa Redgrave and Danny Glover is a friend of Mel Gibson. Redgrave and Gibson have both added notoriety to their fame by indulging in rants: </p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOwH-46ovlo" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOwH-46ovlo</a> </p>
<p><a href="http://www.tmz.com/2006/07/28/gibsons-anti-semitic-tirade-alleged-cover-up/" rel="nofollow">http://www.tmz.com/2006/07/28/gibsons-anti-semitic-tirade-alleged-cover-up/</a></p>
<p>Birds of a feather, and all that.</p>
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		<title>By: ganselmi</title>
		<link>http://blog.z-word.com/2009/09/should-we-boycott-the-boycotters/#comment-6801</link>
		<dc:creator>ganselmi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 00:25:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Israeli government partly sponsored "Waltz with Bashir," a film highly critical of IDF conduct in '82. This is a testament to the openness of Israeli society and the nation's willingness to continually contest and renegotiate its history in honest and critical ways. If this isn't a resounding counterpoint to the lies offered by those who seek to relentlessly demonize not just the Israeli state but also its people - I don't what is!

Plus, if these so-called stars were really interested in finding a solution to the I/P problem, they would do everything in their power to engage and support Israel's vibrant and diverse civil society rather than paint it with a broad brush, alienate it, and ostracize Israel's artistic voices. But a genuine solution is not what these people are interested in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Israeli government partly sponsored &#8220;Waltz with Bashir,&#8221; a film highly critical of IDF conduct in &#8216;82. This is a testament to the openness of Israeli society and the nation&#8217;s willingness to continually contest and renegotiate its history in honest and critical ways. If this isn&#8217;t a resounding counterpoint to the lies offered by those who seek to relentlessly demonize not just the Israeli state but also its people - I don&#8217;t what is!</p>
<p>Plus, if these so-called stars were really interested in finding a solution to the I/P problem, they would do everything in their power to engage and support Israel&#8217;s vibrant and diverse civil society rather than paint it with a broad brush, alienate it, and ostracize Israel&#8217;s artistic voices. But a genuine solution is not what these people are interested in.</p>
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