Comments on: CST Antisemitic Discourse Report 2008 http://blog.z-word.com/2009/07/cst-antisemitic-discourse-report-2008/ Commentary about Zionism, anti-Zionism, antisemitism and the conflict in the Middle East Wed, 23 May 2012 09:42:24 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5-RC1.1 By: Hans Schouten http://blog.z-word.com/2009/07/cst-antisemitic-discourse-report-2008/#comment-6507 Hans Schouten Tue, 18 Aug 2009 15:26:06 +0000 http://blog.z-word.com/?p=1367#comment-6507 David, You, rightly, claim that there are legitimate objections many of us — Jews included — have to Israel’s actions. However, legitimate objections and/or criticisms of Israeli policies and/or actions does not constitute anti-Zionism. Anti-Zionism would be the denial of Israel to exists as a predominantly Jewish country. Which is, IMHO, a far cry from having legitimate objections and/or criticisms of Israeli policies and/or actions. Of course, too many of those who purport to merely have legitimate objections and/or criticisms of Israeli policies and/or actions are really hiding (none to well) their real sentiments when they hold Israel to standards they don't apply to anybody else. Legitimate objections and/or criticisms of Israeli policies and/or actions is quite frankly something that every pro-Israeli should embrace. But, unfortunately, not all objections and/or criticisms of Israeli policies and/or actions are legitimate. When they aren't they, more often then not, are based on antisemitism. David,

You, rightly, claim that there are legitimate objections many of us — Jews included — have to Israel’s actions. However, legitimate objections and/or criticisms of Israeli policies and/or actions does not constitute anti-Zionism.

Anti-Zionism would be the denial of Israel to exists as a predominantly Jewish country. Which is, IMHO, a far cry from having legitimate objections and/or criticisms of Israeli policies and/or actions.

Of course, too many of those who purport to merely have legitimate objections and/or criticisms of Israeli policies and/or actions are really hiding (none to well) their real sentiments when they hold Israel to standards they don’t apply to anybody else.

Legitimate objections and/or criticisms of Israeli policies and/or actions is quite frankly something that every pro-Israeli should embrace. But, unfortunately, not all objections and/or criticisms of Israeli policies and/or actions are legitimate. When they aren’t they, more often then not, are based on antisemitism.

]]> By: Eamonn McDonagh http://blog.z-word.com/2009/07/cst-antisemitic-discourse-report-2008/#comment-6456 Eamonn McDonagh Sat, 15 Aug 2009 22:51:53 +0000 http://blog.z-word.com/?p=1367#comment-6456 Dave, You win the "Acceptable Jew of the Month" award for August. Clap! Clap! Dave,
You win the “Acceptable Jew of the Month” award for August. Clap! Clap!

]]> By: David http://blog.z-word.com/2009/07/cst-antisemitic-discourse-report-2008/#comment-6454 David Sat, 15 Aug 2009 20:15:34 +0000 http://blog.z-word.com/?p=1367#comment-6454 The CST Antisemitic Discourse Report 2008 doesn't take long [starts on p.13] to conflate anti-Zionism with anti-Semitism. How can anyone take shoddy work like this seriously? There are legitimate objections many of us -- Jews included -- have to Israel's actions and, I'm sorry, but it's brutally frank criticism of a nation that uses land theft and martial law to promote a form of 19th Century nationalism. The CST Antisemitic Discourse Report 2008 doesn’t take long [starts on p.13] to conflate anti-Zionism with anti-Semitism. How can anyone take shoddy work like this seriously? There are legitimate objections many of us — Jews included — have to Israel’s actions and, I’m sorry, but it’s brutally frank criticism of a nation that uses land theft and martial law to promote a form of 19th Century nationalism.

]]> By: Jacob http://blog.z-word.com/2009/07/cst-antisemitic-discourse-report-2008/#comment-5976 Jacob Fri, 24 Jul 2009 01:45:14 +0000 http://blog.z-word.com/?p=1367#comment-5976 "...still others, such as Alan Hart claiming that Jews live in communities so that they can form voting blocs (rather than, for example, wanting to live within walking distance of their synagogue), are bizarre." Not bizarre at all if one notes that antisemitism is about delegitimizing even normal rights that other individuals and peoples have. Hence, it is normal for groups of people to want to live around each other because they enjoy each others company (the Irish in Boston, for example, or Arabs in Michigan, or Wes Indians in Queens, etc). When it comes to Jew the reason must be something sinister. There is a small step from delegitimizing the rights of Jews to live together in neighborhoods to delegitimizing the rights of Jews to live in peace in their own nation State. “…still others, such as Alan Hart claiming that Jews live in communities so that they can form voting blocs (rather than, for example, wanting to live within walking distance of their synagogue), are bizarre.”

Not bizarre at all if one notes that antisemitism is about delegitimizing even normal rights that other individuals and peoples have.

Hence, it is normal for groups of people to want to live around each other because they enjoy each others company (the Irish in Boston, for example, or Arabs in Michigan, or Wes Indians in Queens, etc).
When it comes to Jew the reason must be something sinister.

There is a small step from delegitimizing the rights of Jews to live together in neighborhoods to delegitimizing the rights of Jews to live in peace in their own nation State.

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