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	<title>Comments on: Marxist Film Director Says Antisemitism is &#8220;Understandable&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Assange and Shamir at Z-Word Blog</title>
		<link>http://blog.z-word.com/2009/03/marxist-film-director-says-antisemitism-is-understandable/#comment-24594</link>
		<dc:creator>Assange and Shamir at Z-Word Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Dec 2010 16:47:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] prominent Assange supporter, Ken Loach, for advice, he&#8217;ll just tell them antisemitism is &#8220;understandable&#8221; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] prominent Assange supporter, Ken Loach, for advice, he&#8217;ll just tell them antisemitism is &#8220;understandable&#8221; [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Townson</title>
		<link>http://blog.z-word.com/2009/03/marxist-film-director-says-antisemitism-is-understandable/#comment-22401</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian Townson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Nov 2010 15:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is meant by 'understandable' in relation to anti-semitism? I try to put myself in the shoes of a Palestinian whose only experience of 'jews' comes in the shape of tanks, guns, soldiers, foreign invaders - those who kill and maim brothers, sisters, mothers, fathers, sons, daughters - not to mention the destruction of homes and the enforcement of poverty in what is, in fact, the open prison of Gaza. Under those cirmcustances 'anti-semitism' isn't understandable, it's inevitable. 

I suggest that Israel's oppressive treatment of the Palestinians (and by common consent this is agreed upon) is only a partial explanation for the rise of anti-semitism in Europe. I think we are up against an older and more sinsiter form of anti-semitism connected to the rise of nationalistic movements that Identity with the racialist politics of a fascist past. No-one on the Left would support that and would fight vigorously against any manifestation of far-right politics that singles out any minority group for persecution. 

Ian Townson</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is meant by &#8216;understandable&#8217; in relation to anti-semitism? I try to put myself in the shoes of a Palestinian whose only experience of &#8216;jews&#8217; comes in the shape of tanks, guns, soldiers, foreign invaders - those who kill and maim brothers, sisters, mothers, fathers, sons, daughters - not to mention the destruction of homes and the enforcement of poverty in what is, in fact, the open prison of Gaza. Under those cirmcustances &#8216;anti-semitism&#8217; isn&#8217;t understandable, it&#8217;s inevitable. </p>
<p>I suggest that Israel&#8217;s oppressive treatment of the Palestinians (and by common consent this is agreed upon) is only a partial explanation for the rise of anti-semitism in Europe. I think we are up against an older and more sinsiter form of anti-semitism connected to the rise of nationalistic movements that Identity with the racialist politics of a fascist past. No-one on the Left would support that and would fight vigorously against any manifestation of far-right politics that singles out any minority group for persecution. </p>
<p>Ian Townson</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle</title>
		<link>http://blog.z-word.com/2009/03/marxist-film-director-says-antisemitism-is-understandable/#comment-8184</link>
		<dc:creator>Kyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 18:22:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What are you talking about? 

First of all what does him being a marxist have anything to do with what he said. His marxist beliefs have nothing to do with his statement. You are just trying to put him in a bad light before we even hear his statement. 

Second of all I think you are completely misunderstanding what is meant by understandable. He is not saying that antisemitism justified, right, or condonable. No he is saying it is comprehensible, that one can see you this may be happening. Yes, in fact sexually provocative situations may cause incidents of sexual assault. Muslim attacks on America cause anti-Islamic sentiments. These things are understandable, but by no means justified or condonable. That is all Loach is saying. 

He doesn't think it is right to hate jews, but just that he can see (understand) how there could be a rise in people hating jews.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What are you talking about? </p>
<p>First of all what does him being a marxist have anything to do with what he said. His marxist beliefs have nothing to do with his statement. You are just trying to put him in a bad light before we even hear his statement. </p>
<p>Second of all I think you are completely misunderstanding what is meant by understandable. He is not saying that antisemitism justified, right, or condonable. No he is saying it is comprehensible, that one can see you this may be happening. Yes, in fact sexually provocative situations may cause incidents of sexual assault. Muslim attacks on America cause anti-Islamic sentiments. These things are understandable, but by no means justified or condonable. That is all Loach is saying. </p>
<p>He doesn&#8217;t think it is right to hate jews, but just that he can see (understand) how there could be a rise in people hating jews.</p>
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		<title>By: orangetime &#124; שירות לקוראים שלא מתכוונים לראות את סרטו של קן לואץ&#8217; עם אריק קנטונה &#124; תופעת דורפן 2.1</title>
		<link>http://blog.z-word.com/2009/03/marxist-film-director-says-antisemitism-is-understandable/#comment-7463</link>
		<dc:creator>orangetime &#124; שירות לקוראים שלא מתכוונים לראות את סרטו של קן לואץ&#8217; עם אריק קנטונה &#124; תופעת דורפן 2.1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 20:55:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] לעצמי חברים באירופה לעניינים הללו. ולא כי אני חושש מאנשים שלדעתי הם אנטישמים במסווה כמו שיש לי חשש לגבי קן לואץ&#8217;. אלא בעיקר כי להיאחז [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] לעצמי חברים באירופה לעניינים הללו. ולא כי אני חושש מאנשים שלדעתי הם אנטישמים במסווה כמו שיש לי חשש לגבי קן לואץ&#8217;. אלא בעיקר כי להיאחז [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Jill</title>
		<link>http://blog.z-word.com/2009/03/marxist-film-director-says-antisemitism-is-understandable/#comment-5955</link>
		<dc:creator>Jill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 12:28:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So if Ken Loach get beaten up he can attribute it to the effects of Commmunism on Europe...? It would be an opportunity for him to show his "understanding' of the far-reaching effects of oppressive regimes, into the fourth or fifth generation...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So if Ken Loach get beaten up he can attribute it to the effects of Commmunism on Europe&#8230;? It would be an opportunity for him to show his &#8220;understanding&#8217; of the far-reaching effects of oppressive regimes, into the fourth or fifth generation&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Edward</title>
		<link>http://blog.z-word.com/2009/03/marxist-film-director-says-antisemitism-is-understandable/#comment-5917</link>
		<dc:creator>Edward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 20:57:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Islamophobia is "understandable" after the 7/7/05 bus and underground bombing.

Loach is the tip of the iceberg of "progressive" racists in the UK.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Islamophobia is &#8220;understandable&#8221; after the 7/7/05 bus and underground bombing.</p>
<p>Loach is the tip of the iceberg of &#8220;progressive&#8221; racists in the UK.</p>
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		<title>By: Melbourne Tells Ken Loach to Get Lost at Z-Word Blog</title>
		<link>http://blog.z-word.com/2009/03/marxist-film-director-says-antisemitism-is-understandable/#comment-5890</link>
		<dc:creator>Melbourne Tells Ken Loach to Get Lost at Z-Word Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 19:36:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Well, the equivalent festival in Melbourne, Australia won&#8217;t be intimidated by Ken &#8220;Antisemitism is Understandable&#8221; Loach. Responding to a demand from Loach that the festival refuse Israeli funding, festival [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Well, the equivalent festival in Melbourne, Australia won&#8217;t be intimidated by Ken &#8220;Antisemitism is Understandable&#8221; Loach. Responding to a demand from Loach that the festival refuse Israeli funding, festival [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: A. Kaplan</title>
		<link>http://blog.z-word.com/2009/03/marxist-film-director-says-antisemitism-is-understandable/#comment-4108</link>
		<dc:creator>A. Kaplan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 15:53:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>According to Ken Loach logic, women are the cause of rape and deserve it not to mention the punishment of being stoned to death for insulting and bringing shame unto the family. This is a common practice in much of the Muslim world. Loach and all of England deserve the Islamic Sharia State that is soon coming to your local neighborhood in Great Britain not to mention France.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to Ken Loach logic, women are the cause of rape and deserve it not to mention the punishment of being stoned to death for insulting and bringing shame unto the family. This is a common practice in much of the Muslim world. Loach and all of England deserve the Islamic Sharia State that is soon coming to your local neighborhood in Great Britain not to mention France.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Cohen</title>
		<link>http://blog.z-word.com/2009/03/marxist-film-director-says-antisemitism-is-understandable/#comment-4040</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Cohen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 23:08:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anon - good point - thanks.</description>
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		<title>By: Anon</title>
		<link>http://blog.z-word.com/2009/03/marxist-film-director-says-antisemitism-is-understandable/#comment-4039</link>
		<dc:creator>Anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 22:41:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;This is the same logic which blames Al Qaeda for assaults on Muslims&lt;/i&gt;

I had to read this twice because Al Quaeda does in fact assault Muslims. I recall reading that something like two out of three Muslim deaths in Iraq was caused by the so called resistance.

I know you meant assaults by non Muslim bigots but that isn't precisely clear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>This is the same logic which blames Al Qaeda for assaults on Muslims</i></p>
<p>I had to read this twice because Al Quaeda does in fact assault Muslims. I recall reading that something like two out of three Muslim deaths in Iraq was caused by the so called resistance.</p>
<p>I know you meant assaults by non Muslim bigots but that isn&#8217;t precisely clear.</p>
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