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	<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 05:22:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: force of nature</title>
		<link>http://blog.z-word.com/2009/03/israel-and-iran-at-war/#comment-4538</link>
		<dc:creator>force of nature</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 04:03:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you have forgoten the power of iranian politician is growing rapidly in all the world . first to unified major arab country againest israel, two let intire world view the killing of people in the gaza ,three creat a fieles againest israel in un and internatiional court ,then is final have strick in all line to israel from air and in side by full force ,that i am believe has prepered for long time ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you have forgoten the power of iranian politician is growing rapidly in all the world . first to unified major arab country againest israel, two let intire world view the killing of people in the gaza ,three creat a fieles againest israel in un and internatiional court ,then is final have strick in all line to israel from air and in side by full force ,that i am believe has prepered for long time ago.</p>
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		<title>By: MacLeinn</title>
		<link>http://blog.z-word.com/2009/03/israel-and-iran-at-war/#comment-4462</link>
		<dc:creator>MacLeinn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 22:27:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Off-topic - Eamonn, CAMERA's dossier on 'The Irish Times' is a must-read:

http://www.camera.org/index.asp?x_context=2&#38;x_outlet=203&#38;x_article=1651</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Off-topic - Eamonn, CAMERA&#8217;s dossier on &#8216;The Irish Times&#8217; is a must-read:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.camera.org/index.asp?x_context=2&amp;x_outlet=203&amp;x_article=1651" rel="nofollow">http://www.camera.org/index.asp?x_context=2&amp;x_outlet=203&amp;x_article=1651</a></p>
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		<title>By: Bialik</title>
		<link>http://blog.z-word.com/2009/03/israel-and-iran-at-war/#comment-4447</link>
		<dc:creator>Bialik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 16:11:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"A row has broken out over allegations of antisemitism at the New York Times, America’s most vaunted name in journalism and a newspaper with a large Jewish readership."

I am not surprised to see antisemitism portrayed by the Guardian as 

- an issue of concern to Jews but not troubling in itself; 

- a danger to the reputation of a paper, the danger occurring because there is the potential to offend a large volume of its readers.

Incidentally, how does the Guardian know what religion the readers of the NYT profess, if any?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;A row has broken out over allegations of antisemitism at the New York Times, America’s most vaunted name in journalism and a newspaper with a large Jewish readership.&#8221;</p>
<p>I am not surprised to see antisemitism portrayed by the Guardian as </p>
<p>- an issue of concern to Jews but not troubling in itself; </p>
<p>- a danger to the reputation of a paper, the danger occurring because there is the potential to offend a large volume of its readers.</p>
<p>Incidentally, how does the Guardian know what religion the readers of the NYT profess, if any?</p>
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		<title>By: Israel and Iran at War &#171; El Nuevo Pantano</title>
		<link>http://blog.z-word.com/2009/03/israel-and-iran-at-war/#comment-4446</link>
		<dc:creator>Israel and Iran at War &#171; El Nuevo Pantano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 13:33:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Israel and Iran at&#160;War   Published March 31, 2009   Iran , Israel , Military Affairs       here [...]</description>
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		<title>By: The abbreviated read (4) &#124; False Dichotomies</title>
		<link>http://blog.z-word.com/2009/03/israel-and-iran-at-war/#comment-4444</link>
		<dc:creator>The abbreviated read (4) &#124; False Dichotomies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 10:06:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Eamonn McDonagh on Israel and Iran at [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jacob</title>
		<link>http://blog.z-word.com/2009/03/israel-and-iran-at-war/#comment-4442</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 00:13:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Clarifying the debate about Roger Cohen"
By Uriel Heilman · March 30, 2009 


piece in Sunday's U.K. Guardian takes a belated look at the controversy surrounding New York Times columnist Roger Cohen and his columns about Iran, Jews in Iran and Israel. The piece reports:

'A row has broken out over allegations of antisemitism at the New York Times, America's most vaunted name in journalism and a newspaper with a large Jewish readership.

The storm centres on a column about Jews in Iran written by New York Times journalist Roger Cohen and a cartoon attacking the recent war in Gaza.

The newspaper, and Cohen in particular, has been accused of being too critical of Israel and an apologist for Iran and its leader, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.'

In typical British fashion, the Guardian gets the point about criticism of Israel wrong.

Contrary to what some Britons may think, there is no invisible, forbidden line in America when it comes to criticism of Israel that, when crossed, becomes certifiable anti-Semitism. Reasonable people can argue about what constitutes anti-Semitism, and whether certain criticisms of Israel fit the bill.

I'm not sure what other critics of Cohen have been saying to the New York Times, but my problem with his columns isn't his criticism of Israel (or anti-Semitism) but his bad journalism. Cohen has the right to criticize Israel -- as do I, you or anybody else. The problem isn't that Cohen has criticized Israel too much, crossing some unspoken line, but that he's simply been wrong or duplicitous in what he has written about Israel, Iran and Iranian Jews...."

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Clarifying the debate about Roger Cohen&#8221;<br />
By Uriel Heilman · March 30, 2009 </p>
<p>piece in Sunday&#8217;s U.K. Guardian takes a belated look at the controversy surrounding New York Times columnist Roger Cohen and his columns about Iran, Jews in Iran and Israel. The piece reports:</p>
<p>&#8216;A row has broken out over allegations of antisemitism at the New York Times, America&#8217;s most vaunted name in journalism and a newspaper with a large Jewish readership.</p>
<p>The storm centres on a column about Jews in Iran written by New York Times journalist Roger Cohen and a cartoon attacking the recent war in Gaza.</p>
<p>The newspaper, and Cohen in particular, has been accused of being too critical of Israel and an apologist for Iran and its leader, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.&#8217;</p>
<p>In typical British fashion, the Guardian gets the point about criticism of Israel wrong.</p>
<p>Contrary to what some Britons may think, there is no invisible, forbidden line in America when it comes to criticism of Israel that, when crossed, becomes certifiable anti-Semitism. Reasonable people can argue about what constitutes anti-Semitism, and whether certain criticisms of Israel fit the bill.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure what other critics of Cohen have been saying to the New York Times, but my problem with his columns isn&#8217;t his criticism of Israel (or anti-Semitism) but his bad journalism. Cohen has the right to criticize Israel &#8212; as do I, you or anybody else. The problem isn&#8217;t that Cohen has criticized Israel too much, crossing some unspoken line, but that he&#8217;s simply been wrong or duplicitous in what he has written about Israel, Iran and Iranian Jews&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
<p>read the rest here:</p>
<p><a href="http://blogs.jta.org/telegraph/article/2009/03/30/1004093/clarifying-the-debate-about-roger-cohen" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.jta.org/telegraph/article/2009/03/30/1004093/clarifying-the-debate-about-roger-cohen</a></p>
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		<title>By: Michael B</title>
		<link>http://blog.z-word.com/2009/03/israel-and-iran-at-war/#comment-4433</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 14:11:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, the occupation of Gaza and the West Bank is certainly costly, but it is not wrong given the manifest realities.  Likewise, the vision of a two state regimen is reasonable and even propitious, but that is a medium to long term vision that needs to take present and continuing realities into account, that requires a qualitative backbone married to that vision on the part of Israeli politicians and social/political commentators and leaders in general.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, the occupation of Gaza and the West Bank is certainly costly, but it is not wrong given the manifest realities.  Likewise, the vision of a two state regimen is reasonable and even propitious, but that is a medium to long term vision that needs to take present and continuing realities into account, that requires a qualitative backbone married to that vision on the part of Israeli politicians and social/political commentators and leaders in general.</p>
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		<title>By: ganselmi</title>
		<link>http://blog.z-word.com/2009/03/israel-and-iran-at-war/#comment-4429</link>
		<dc:creator>ganselmi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 11:17:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eamonn,

Great analysis. I hear so many Iranians, of various political stripes, ask me: "Why are we risking our security and wasting our money on the Palestinians? What do they have to do with us?" 

But I also know there is a good chunk of my compatriots who've been fooled by the regime's propaganda into hating Israel, or else they go along with the IRI party line because the regime subsidizes their daily life in one way or another.

That said, it isn't the case that the average Iranian wakes up every morning saying to herself, "Hopefully today will bring another victory for us against the Zionists!" So the best chance of Israel "winning" the war would be for the Iranian people to make it clear to their regime that enmity towards the Jewish state does not put food on the table, does not allow their recent graduate to find a job, does not make them more free, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eamonn,</p>
<p>Great analysis. I hear so many Iranians, of various political stripes, ask me: &#8220;Why are we risking our security and wasting our money on the Palestinians? What do they have to do with us?&#8221; </p>
<p>But I also know there is a good chunk of my compatriots who&#8217;ve been fooled by the regime&#8217;s propaganda into hating Israel, or else they go along with the IRI party line because the regime subsidizes their daily life in one way or another.</p>
<p>That said, it isn&#8217;t the case that the average Iranian wakes up every morning saying to herself, &#8220;Hopefully today will bring another victory for us against the Zionists!&#8221; So the best chance of Israel &#8220;winning&#8221; the war would be for the Iranian people to make it clear to their regime that enmity towards the Jewish state does not put food on the table, does not allow their recent graduate to find a job, does not make them more free, etc.</p>
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