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	<title>Comments on: New on Z Word: An Interview With Paul Berman</title>
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	<description>Commentary about Zionism, anti-Zionism, antisemitism and the conflict in the Middle East</description>
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		<title>By: Jacob</title>
		<link>http://blog.z-word.com/2009/02/new-on-z-word-an-interview-with-paul-berman/#comment-3878</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 20:35:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Correction:


I said above that "Some of this is probably well known. What is less well known is the anti-Jewish sentiments expressed by demoralized Jewish intellectuals like Lionel Trilling and others. Trilling in an introduction to the stories of Tess Shlesinger (the book is out of print) admitted that during the Hebron riot of the late 20’s he among other American Jews supported the Arabs."


Trilling did indeed say that he supported the Arabs at the time, but he made the comment in an essay published as an afterward to a novel by Tess Shlessinger (The Unpossessed) and not as an introduction to her short stories.

The essay was reprinted as "A Novel of the Thirties" in "The last Decade: Essays and Reviews 1965-1975" by Lionel Trilling.


 http://www.amazon.com/Last-Decade-Essays-Reviews-1965-1975/dp/0156488922/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&#38;s=books&#38;qid=1236112198&#38;sr=1-2


To understand why a number of Jewish intellectuals take a decidedly anti Israel point of view it's important to go back to their stance a few decades or even before there was a Jewish State in order to see the kinds of anxieties Zionism brought out in their view about their national identity.</description>
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<p>I said above that &#8220;Some of this is probably well known. What is less well known is the anti-Jewish sentiments expressed by demoralized Jewish intellectuals like Lionel Trilling and others. Trilling in an introduction to the stories of Tess Shlesinger (the book is out of print) admitted that during the Hebron riot of the late 20’s he among other American Jews supported the Arabs.&#8221;</p>
<p>Trilling did indeed say that he supported the Arabs at the time, but he made the comment in an essay published as an afterward to a novel by Tess Shlessinger (The Unpossessed) and not as an introduction to her short stories.</p>
<p>The essay was reprinted as &#8220;A Novel of the Thirties&#8221; in &#8220;The last Decade: Essays and Reviews 1965-1975&#8243; by Lionel Trilling.</p>
<p> <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Last-Decade-Essays-Reviews-1965-1975/dp/0156488922/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1236112198&amp;sr=1-2" rel="nofollow">http://www.amazon.com/Last-Decade-Essays-Reviews-1965-1975/dp/0156488922/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1236112198&amp;sr=1-2</a></p>
<p>To understand why a number of Jewish intellectuals take a decidedly anti Israel point of view it&#8217;s important to go back to their stance a few decades or even before there was a Jewish State in order to see the kinds of anxieties Zionism brought out in their view about their national identity.</p>
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		<title>By: Jackson Dyer</title>
		<link>http://blog.z-word.com/2009/02/new-on-z-word-an-interview-with-paul-berman/#comment-3788</link>
		<dc:creator>Jackson Dyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 14:23:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is an example of what Paul Berman is talking about.

In this issue of the NY Review of book there are a number of letters on Iran in which the writers take it for granted that Israel is the real problem. 


'How to Deal with Iran': Two Exchanges:

http://www.nybooks.com/articles/22410


To Victor Gilinsky the Former Commissioner of the Nuclear Regulatory Commission Israel’s “intransigence” is as much the problem as is Iran nuclear ambitions; as if Israel had threatened Iran the way said that it wanted to “wipe Israel off the map.”

In another letter by Nikki Keddie the Emeritus Professor of Middle Eastern and Iranian History at UCLA it is the US and the “Zionists” (he doesn’t even bother to mention Israel by name) that is the problem:  “Congressional resolutions supporting and giving aid to Iranian oppositional activities have predictably backfired and opened reformers to the charge of being US and Zionist agents.”

It’s this taken for granted attitude that Israel is somehow the real problem in the world by many intellectuals’ magazines and journals that is the driving force of today’s antisemitism.

This is true no less in the US than in Europe and Latin America. 

They need to be called to account.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is an example of what Paul Berman is talking about.</p>
<p>In this issue of the NY Review of book there are a number of letters on Iran in which the writers take it for granted that Israel is the real problem. </p>
<p>&#8216;How to Deal with Iran&#8217;: Two Exchanges:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nybooks.com/articles/22410" rel="nofollow">http://www.nybooks.com/articles/22410</a></p>
<p>To Victor Gilinsky the Former Commissioner of the Nuclear Regulatory Commission Israel’s “intransigence” is as much the problem as is Iran nuclear ambitions; as if Israel had threatened Iran the way said that it wanted to “wipe Israel off the map.”</p>
<p>In another letter by Nikki Keddie the Emeritus Professor of Middle Eastern and Iranian History at UCLA it is the US and the “Zionists” (he doesn’t even bother to mention Israel by name) that is the problem:  “Congressional resolutions supporting and giving aid to Iranian oppositional activities have predictably backfired and opened reformers to the charge of being US and Zionist agents.”</p>
<p>It’s this taken for granted attitude that Israel is somehow the real problem in the world by many intellectuals’ magazines and journals that is the driving force of today’s antisemitism.</p>
<p>This is true no less in the US than in Europe and Latin America. </p>
<p>They need to be called to account.</p>
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		<title>By: Jacob</title>
		<link>http://blog.z-word.com/2009/02/new-on-z-word-an-interview-with-paul-berman/#comment-3787</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 14:16:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“Too many of us regard antisemitism as belonging to the realm of the uncouth, the intoxicant of the beer hall, perhaps, but not the bistro. Its true home, as Berman says, is in the loftiest thoughts. Therein lies its danger.”

Even a cursory knowledge of antisemitism in Europe and sometimes even in the US would reveal that antisemitism has often been the pastime of intellectuals and members of the upper classes. 

In 1894 Bernard Lazare published “L’Antisémitisme, son histoire est ses cause” which was an attack on French upper class and intellectual antisemitism during the Dreyfus affair. In the US even well regarded poets like William Carlos Williams, in his letters and E E Cummings are known to have written antisemitic declarations. The cases of TS Eliot and Ezra Pound are too well known to mention here. 

Some of this is probably well known. What is less well known is the anti-Jewish sentiments expressed by demoralized Jewish intellectuals like Lionel Trilling and others. Trilling in an introduction to the stories of Tess Shlesinger (the book is out of print) admitted that during the Hebron riot of the late 20’s he among other American Jews supported the Arabs.

Zionism has always been a challenge to the national identity of many Jewish intellectuals in the Western world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Too many of us regard antisemitism as belonging to the realm of the uncouth, the intoxicant of the beer hall, perhaps, but not the bistro. Its true home, as Berman says, is in the loftiest thoughts. Therein lies its danger.”</p>
<p>Even a cursory knowledge of antisemitism in Europe and sometimes even in the US would reveal that antisemitism has often been the pastime of intellectuals and members of the upper classes. </p>
<p>In 1894 Bernard Lazare published “L’Antisémitisme, son histoire est ses cause” which was an attack on French upper class and intellectual antisemitism during the Dreyfus affair. In the US even well regarded poets like William Carlos Williams, in his letters and E E Cummings are known to have written antisemitic declarations. The cases of TS Eliot and Ezra Pound are too well known to mention here. </p>
<p>Some of this is probably well known. What is less well known is the anti-Jewish sentiments expressed by demoralized Jewish intellectuals like Lionel Trilling and others. Trilling in an introduction to the stories of Tess Shlesinger (the book is out of print) admitted that during the Hebron riot of the late 20’s he among other American Jews supported the Arabs.</p>
<p>Zionism has always been a challenge to the national identity of many Jewish intellectuals in the Western world.</p>
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