Comments on: Arab Israelis Face Decisive Election http://blog.z-word.com/2009/02/arab-israelis-face-decisive-election/ Commentary about Zionism, anti-Zionism, antisemitism and the conflict in the Middle East Tue, 22 May 2012 17:03:52 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5-RC1.1 By: Empress Trudy http://blog.z-word.com/2009/02/arab-israelis-face-decisive-election/#comment-3586 Empress Trudy Tue, 10 Feb 2009 13:40:03 +0000 http://blog.z-word.com/?p=1032#comment-3586 BTW I would add that Israeli Arabs really don't face an election that is any more decisive than any other. For years and years the Arab MK's have played an odd game. They tell their own constituency that voting for the 'zionists' is a vote for the legitimacy of them, and should therefore be boycotted. Then in the next breath they complain that the Arabs are under represented as evidence of their own claim that Israel is somehow an apartheid state. And because of the odd structure of Israeli elections, e.g. there are no voting districts or wards so voters elect members of a list wherever they reside, the Israelis play right into this. No the fact is that Israeli Arabs aren't voting according to whom Hamas kills. Their representation is already half of what the rest of the Israeli voting populace is, even accounting for their large families and large numbers of children. In fact they're not voting much at all. BTW I would add that Israeli Arabs really don’t face an election that is any more decisive than any other. For years and years the Arab MK’s have played an odd game. They tell their own constituency that voting for the ‘zionists’ is a vote for the legitimacy of them, and should therefore be boycotted. Then in the next breath they complain that the Arabs are under represented as evidence of their own claim that Israel is somehow an apartheid state.

And because of the odd structure of Israeli elections, e.g. there are no voting districts or wards so voters elect members of a list wherever they reside, the Israelis play right into this.

No the fact is that Israeli Arabs aren’t voting according to whom Hamas kills. Their representation is already half of what the rest of the Israeli voting populace is, even accounting for their large families and large numbers of children. In fact they’re not voting much at all.

]]> By: Empress Trudy http://blog.z-word.com/2009/02/arab-israelis-face-decisive-election/#comment-3585 Empress Trudy Tue, 10 Feb 2009 13:34:32 +0000 http://blog.z-word.com/?p=1032#comment-3585 What do you think is provocative, the language or the claim? Why are you afraid to confront agitprop that doesn't bother to even pretend otherwise? What do you think is provocative, the language or the claim? Why are you afraid to confront agitprop that doesn’t bother to even pretend otherwise?

]]> By: Ben Cohen http://blog.z-word.com/2009/02/arab-israelis-face-decisive-election/#comment-3578 Ben Cohen Mon, 09 Feb 2009 23:05:55 +0000 http://blog.z-word.com/?p=1032#comment-3578 Trudy, I was in a rush today and hastily approved your comment. I really should not have done. So I'm going to point out that we take no responsibility for what you say. And I'm going to ask you - again - not to make extravagant claims which you can't back up with evidence, to refrain from using foul or intemperate language and to refrain from making provocative comments like the one you left last week which I deleted. This really is your final warning. Trudy, I was in a rush today and hastily approved your comment. I really should not have done. So I’m going to point out that we take no responsibility for what you say. And I’m going to ask you - again - not to make extravagant claims which you can’t back up with evidence, to refrain from using foul or intemperate language and to refrain from making provocative comments like the one you left last week which I deleted. This really is your final warning.

]]> By: Empress Trudy http://blog.z-word.com/2009/02/arab-israelis-face-decisive-election/#comment-3574 Empress Trudy Mon, 09 Feb 2009 19:36:48 +0000 http://blog.z-word.com/?p=1032#comment-3574 No in fact when Arabs kill other Arabs, the ferocious left displays its soft bigotry. "Well you know how THOSE people are..." and they simply move on to the next thing to blame on the Jews. And that's the good case. In fact you'll find that the vanguard of antisemitism in the west is what it appears to be; paid propagandists spouting whatever their Arab paymasters tell them to say. Any hardcore 'progressive' blog, e.g. salon.com, with Glenn Greenwald literally pulls data out its collective asshole, pastes it up as fact and gospel truth and heaps personal abuse on any and all who dare question it. Factual contra-evidence is deleted. It's a mistake to think antisemites are stupid or ignorant. They say what they are paid to say. No in fact when Arabs kill other Arabs, the ferocious left displays its soft bigotry. “Well you know how THOSE people are…” and they simply move on to the next thing to blame on the Jews. And that’s the good case.

In fact you’ll find that the vanguard of antisemitism in the west is what it appears to be; paid propagandists spouting whatever their Arab paymasters tell them to say. Any hardcore ‘progressive’ blog, e.g. salon.com, with Glenn Greenwald literally pulls data out its collective asshole, pastes it up as fact and gospel truth and heaps personal abuse on any and all who dare question it. Factual contra-evidence is deleted.

It’s a mistake to think antisemites are stupid or ignorant. They say what they are paid to say.

]]> By: Lynne T http://blog.z-word.com/2009/02/arab-israelis-face-decisive-election/#comment-3573 Lynne T Mon, 09 Feb 2009 14:25:13 +0000 http://blog.z-word.com/?p=1032#comment-3573 "Hezbollah similarly didn’t care who was on the receiving end of the more than 4,000 rockets it fired from southern Lebanon during the summer of 2006. Forty percent of the Israelis killed were Arab citizens." It's not that they don't care. Any Arab deaths in the course of eradicating Jews is deemed by Hezbollah and Hamas to be a life given to glorious martyrdom, even if the martyr is 16-year old son of a strawberry farmer who was murdered while trying to help his parents expel a nest of "militants" who were launching missiles from the farm. “Hezbollah similarly didn’t care who was on the receiving end of the more than 4,000 rockets it fired from southern Lebanon during the summer of 2006. Forty percent of the Israelis killed were Arab citizens.”

It’s not that they don’t care. Any Arab deaths in the course of eradicating Jews is deemed by Hezbollah and Hamas to be a life given to glorious martyrdom, even if the martyr is 16-year old son of a strawberry farmer who was murdered while trying to help his parents expel a nest of “militants” who were launching missiles from the farm.

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