Comments on: Depression and Shame: Roger Cohen on Gaza http://blog.z-word.com/2009/01/depression-and-shame-roger-cohen-on-gaza/ Commentary about Zionism, anti-Zionism, antisemitism and the conflict in the Middle East Thu, 09 Feb 2012 15:19:03 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5-RC1.1 By: Negotiating with Hamas, Logic and Roger Cohen at Z-Word Blog http://blog.z-word.com/2009/01/depression-and-shame-roger-cohen-on-gaza/#comment-3952 Negotiating with Hamas, Logic and Roger Cohen at Z-Word Blog Mon, 09 Mar 2009 06:01:56 +0000 http://blog.z-word.com/?p=965#comment-3952 [...] increasingly insufferable Roger Cohen [...] […] increasingly insufferable Roger Cohen […]

]]> By: David http://blog.z-word.com/2009/01/depression-and-shame-roger-cohen-on-gaza/#comment-3465 David Fri, 30 Jan 2009 18:39:46 +0000 http://blog.z-word.com/?p=965#comment-3465 Right, anyone who has any doubts or concerns about Israel's actions is close to being a self-hater and should be insulted and patronized. Along with all those readers of Ha'aretz and a big chunk of Israeli Jews. And Roger Cohen wants to be a citizen of the world? How reprehensible!!! Right, anyone who has any doubts or concerns about Israel’s actions is close to being a self-hater and should be insulted and patronized. Along with all those readers of Ha’aretz and a big chunk of Israeli Jews. And Roger Cohen wants to be a citizen of the world? How reprehensible!!!

]]> By: Eric http://blog.z-word.com/2009/01/depression-and-shame-roger-cohen-on-gaza/#comment-3414 Eric Wed, 28 Jan 2009 12:48:55 +0000 http://blog.z-word.com/?p=965#comment-3414 Raeffa, I stand corrected. You are right, of course. Thank you for your post. Raeffa,

I stand corrected. You are right, of course.

Thank you for your post.

]]> By: Raeefa Shams http://blog.z-word.com/2009/01/depression-and-shame-roger-cohen-on-gaza/#comment-3410 Raeefa Shams Wed, 28 Jan 2009 03:25:21 +0000 http://blog.z-word.com/?p=965#comment-3410 Eric - The AJC's dust-up was with Richard Cohen of the Washington Post, not Roger Cohen of the NYT. Richard Cohen is actually usually fair toward Israel and appropriately blamed Hamas for provoking Operation Cast Lead in a recent post. Rosenfeld's criticism of him was the result of one badly worded column in which he called Israel a "mistake". Roger Cohen, on the other hand, is a pompous egomanic who loves being a "citizen of the world" and teeters very close to the brink of Jewish self-hatred. Eric - The AJC’s dust-up was with Richard Cohen of the Washington Post, not Roger Cohen of the NYT. Richard Cohen is actually usually fair toward Israel and appropriately blamed Hamas for provoking Operation Cast Lead in a recent post. Rosenfeld’s criticism of him was the result of one badly worded column in which he called Israel a “mistake”.

Roger Cohen, on the other hand, is a pompous egomanic who loves being a “citizen of the world” and teeters very close to the brink of Jewish self-hatred.

]]> By: Eric http://blog.z-word.com/2009/01/depression-and-shame-roger-cohen-on-gaza/#comment-3403 Eric Tue, 27 Jan 2009 19:31:40 +0000 http://blog.z-word.com/?p=965#comment-3403 I make a motion that we leave poor Roger Cohen alone. After all, just a few years ago AJC got into a little dust-up with Cohen as a result of an essay by Prof. Alvin Rosenfeld. You can look it up. I think Tom Friedman's essay in Sunday's Times ("This is Not a Test") is worthy of analysis by Z-Word, as his thesis regarding settlers undoubtedly represents the views of countless progressive Jews (including Cohen). I make a motion that we leave poor Roger Cohen alone. After all, just a few years ago AJC got into a little dust-up with Cohen as a result of an essay by Prof. Alvin Rosenfeld. You can look it up.

I think Tom Friedman’s essay in Sunday’s Times (”This is Not a Test”) is worthy of analysis by Z-Word, as his thesis regarding settlers undoubtedly represents the views of countless progressive Jews (including Cohen).

]]> By: Noga http://blog.z-word.com/2009/01/depression-and-shame-roger-cohen-on-gaza/#comment-3401 Noga Tue, 27 Jan 2009 12:01:47 +0000 http://blog.z-word.com/?p=965#comment-3401 During the 2006 Lebanon war, Hizzbala's call to the Israeli Arabs of the North to abandon their homes until they get the job done seemed to hint at the same pattern of thinking that prevailed during the war of 1948. The war in Gaza revealed, without a doubt, also a pattern of fighting from within civilians that might explain the Arab death toll and panicked flight in 1948. So in a way, Cohen may be on to something when he claims that "a line of sorts runs from the forty-three people killed by Israeli fire near a United Nations school in Gaza on January 6 back to the Palestinian Nakba (catastrophe) of 1948". This war, more than anything, helped me actually figure out better the complexities that Israelis faced in that war, without possessing the obvious military superiority they do today. During the 2006 Lebanon war, Hizzbala’s call to the Israeli Arabs of the North to abandon their homes until they get the job done seemed to hint at the same pattern of thinking that prevailed during the war of 1948.

The war in Gaza revealed, without a doubt, also a pattern of fighting from within civilians that might explain the Arab death toll and panicked flight in 1948.

So in a way, Cohen may be on to something when he claims that “a line of sorts runs from the forty-three people killed by Israeli fire near a United Nations school in Gaza on January 6 back to the Palestinian Nakba (catastrophe) of 1948″.

This war, more than anything, helped me actually figure out better the complexities that Israelis faced in that war, without possessing the obvious military superiority they do today.

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