http://blog.z-word.com/2008/09/the-democratiya-debate-redux/ Commentary about Zionism, anti-Zionism, antisemitism and the conflict in the Middle East Mon, 21 May 2012 13:12:58 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5-RC1.1 http://blog.z-word.com/2008/09/the-democratiya-debate-redux/#comment-1304 Lynne T Tue, 09 Sep 2008 17:58:58 +0000 http://blog.z-word.com/?p=299#comment-1304 I'm not sure on what basis Martin Shaw relies on Benny Morris to support the contention that Israel followed a program of deliberate brutal distruction of the existing Arab population. In fact, Morris has said quite the opposite over the last few years: that for a program of "ethnnic cleansing", the Israelis have sure done a lousy job, probably because ethnic cleansing was never Israel's intent. The Marty Shaws and Noam Chomskys of the world however, don't seem to be able to read Morris at all. I’m not sure on what basis Martin Shaw relies on Benny Morris to support the contention that Israel followed a program of deliberate brutal distruction of the existing Arab population. In fact, Morris has said quite the opposite over the last few years: that for a program of “ethnnic cleansing”, the Israelis have sure done a lousy job, probably because ethnic cleansing was never Israel’s intent. The Marty Shaws and Noam Chomskys of the world however, don’t seem to be able to read Morris at all.

]]> http://blog.z-word.com/2008/09/the-democratiya-debate-redux/#comment-1293 Eamonn McDonagh Tue, 09 Sep 2008 10:56:46 +0000 http://blog.z-word.com/?p=299#comment-1293 Thanks, Petra Thanks, Petra

]]> http://blog.z-word.com/2008/09/the-democratiya-debate-redux/#comment-1289 Petra Mon, 08 Sep 2008 22:37:31 +0000 http://blog.z-word.com/?p=299#comment-1289 Spot on, great commentary! I particularly like that you mention the "Orientalism" in the way Shaw seems to see the Palestinians -- of course, he is by no means alone in this, and I'm always amazed that apparently hardly anyone among the people who would regard themselves as supporting the Palestinians are uncomfortable with continuously talking about them in ways that they would consider racist in other contexts. Spot on, great commentary!
I particularly like that you mention the “Orientalism” in the way Shaw seems to see the Palestinians — of course, he is by no means alone in this, and I’m always amazed that apparently hardly anyone among the people who would regard themselves as supporting the Palestinians are uncomfortable with continuously talking about them in ways that they would consider racist in other contexts.

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