Comments on: Why Belgium Matters http://blog.z-word.com/2008/08/why-belgium-matters/ Commentary about Zionism, anti-Zionism, antisemitism and the conflict in the Middle East Thu, 18 Mar 2010 01:08:16 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5-RC1.1 By: The Politics of Fear at Z-Word Blog http://blog.z-word.com/2008/08/why-belgium-matters/#comment-1365 The Politics of Fear at Z-Word Blog Wed, 17 Sep 2008 05:08:35 +0000 http://blog.z-word.com/?p=253#comment-1365 [...] I said in a recent post on the political crisis in Belgium (a crisis which continues and could yet result in the break-up of a country regarded as a prime [...] […] I said in a recent post on the political crisis in Belgium (a crisis which continues and could yet result in the break-up of a country regarded as a prime […]

]]> By: Richard Prager http://blog.z-word.com/2008/08/why-belgium-matters/#comment-1190 Richard Prager Thu, 28 Aug 2008 06:14:56 +0000 http://blog.z-word.com/?p=253#comment-1190 Belgian presidency of EU was one of the worst vis-a-vis Israel if not the very worst one. And do you still remember their attempts to prosecute Arik Sharon? Given this dichotomy between their projections outside and their "shittiness" at home Brussels truly deserves to be the heart of EU just as the EU deserves the Belgians. Belgian presidency of EU was one of the worst vis-a-vis Israel if not the very worst one. And do you still remember their attempts to prosecute Arik Sharon? Given this dichotomy between their projections outside and their “shittiness” at home Brussels truly deserves to be the heart of EU just as the EU deserves the Belgians.

]]> By: Noga http://blog.z-word.com/2008/08/why-belgium-matters/#comment-1119 Noga Sat, 23 Aug 2008 14:11:36 +0000 http://blog.z-word.com/?p=253#comment-1119 "Beg pardon, Noga - who are these “Palestinian Jews” you mention?" I was entering the spirit of the fantasy of the one state solution, presumably to be called Palestine, in which case Israeli Jews will be called Palestinian Jews, of course. But not for long. Palestinians were just "Arabs" then. This is pretty clear from this John Roy Carlson's 1951 memoirs reproduced in part on Solomonia: http://www.solomonia.com/blog/archive/2008/08/cairo-to-damascus-last-days-of-the-jewis/index.shtml “Beg pardon, Noga - who are these “Palestinian Jews” you mention?”

I was entering the spirit of the fantasy of the one state solution, presumably to be called Palestine, in which case Israeli Jews will be called Palestinian Jews, of course. But not for long.

Palestinians were just “Arabs” then. This is pretty clear from this John Roy Carlson’s 1951 memoirs reproduced in part on Solomonia:

http://www.solomonia.com/blog/archive/2008/08/cairo-to-damascus-last-days-of-the-jewis/index.shtml

]]> By: P http://blog.z-word.com/2008/08/why-belgium-matters/#comment-1117 P Sat, 23 Aug 2008 09:15:58 +0000 http://blog.z-word.com/?p=253#comment-1117 Disagreement among Belgians is deep-seated even on the Israel-Palestine issue. On the 60th anniversary of the creation of Israel, the French-speaking Walloon and Brussels governements are funding a mega pro-Palestinian festival (Masarat Festival) - some of the items of the festival are even being shown in Paris. The Flemish government is not involved. "Content of Belgian-sponsored Palestinian festival irks Jews Belgian Jewish leader Joel Rubinfeld had a queasy feeling last year when he first heard about a state-sponsored Palestinian cultural festival planned for Belgium. Now, he says, his worst suspicions have been confirmed. A preview of the festival last month in Paris featured posters that called for a boycott of Israel and compared Israeli raids on militants in the Gaza Strip to Hitler's bombing of Guernica, Spain. The posters were displayed at the Paris offices of Belgium's French regional government for one week in late March." Cont'd here: http://www.jta.org/cgi-bin/iowa/news/article/200804230423angrybelgian.html Palestinian festival sparks controversy http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1201523804672&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull Zan Studio of Ramallah - anti-Israeli artists invited to Belgium http://philosemitism.blogspot.com/2008/02/zan-studio-of-ramallah-anti-israeli.html Disagreement among Belgians is deep-seated even on the Israel-Palestine issue.

On the 60th anniversary of the creation of Israel, the French-speaking Walloon and Brussels governements are funding a mega pro-Palestinian festival (Masarat Festival) - some of the items of the festival are even being shown in Paris. The Flemish government is not involved.

“Content of Belgian-sponsored Palestinian festival irks Jews

Belgian Jewish leader Joel Rubinfeld had a queasy feeling last year when he first heard about a state-sponsored Palestinian cultural festival planned for Belgium.

Now, he says, his worst suspicions have been confirmed.

A preview of the festival last month in Paris featured posters that called for a boycott of Israel and compared Israeli raids on militants in the Gaza Strip to Hitler’s bombing of Guernica, Spain. The posters were displayed at the Paris offices of Belgium’s French regional government for one week in late March.”

Cont’d here:
http://www.jta.org/cgi-bin/iowa/news/article/200804230423angrybelgian.html

Palestinian festival sparks controversy

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1201523804672&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

Zan Studio of Ramallah - anti-Israeli artists invited to Belgium
http://philosemitism.blogspot.com/2008/02/zan-studio-of-ramallah-anti-israeli.html

]]> By: SnoopyTheGoon http://blog.z-word.com/2008/08/why-belgium-matters/#comment-1116 SnoopyTheGoon Sat, 23 Aug 2008 07:52:41 +0000 http://blog.z-word.com/?p=253#comment-1116 Beg pardon, Noga - who are these "Palestinian Jews" you mention? Beg pardon, Noga - who are these “Palestinian Jews” you mention?

]]> By: Noga http://blog.z-word.com/2008/08/why-belgium-matters/#comment-1108 Noga Fri, 22 Aug 2008 17:56:37 +0000 http://blog.z-word.com/?p=253#comment-1108 I am reminded of the 1998 Belgian film: Le Mur "Belgium is linguistically divided between the Flemish and the French-speaking Walloons. The government has attempted to solve differences by creating a political dividing line between the two territories. Albert, a Walloon, runs a fish’n’chip trailer situated on the very border between territories. On the last day of The Millennium he meets a Flemish girl Wendy at a party and falls in love with her. He wakes up after the party to find that the government has erected a vast wall between the two territories overnight and that he is trapped on the Flemish side without a visa. The territory has become a totalitarian state where his friends are now encouraged to turn him in." http://www.moria.co.nz/fantasy/wall98.htm Hardly a vision to give any credence to AbuNimah's fantasy, which is, of course, not a fantasy of a bi-national statehood so much as it is a hallucinated prescription for the destruction of the Palestinian Jews. The bitter thought occurs that while it is possible to see Belgium go through a mutually-beneficial divorce arrangement, it is impossible to imagine the Palestinians contain themselves with anything like compromise and negotiations, should their coveted experiment fail. The absurdity of Abunimah's proposition of looking at Belgium for inspiration can only be enhannced by the image of Palestinian nationalistic ethos: implacable resentment, deathbearing talk, violence and revenge. I am reminded of the 1998 Belgian film: Le Mur

“Belgium is linguistically divided between the Flemish and the French-speaking Walloons. The government has attempted to solve differences by creating a political dividing line between the two territories. Albert, a Walloon, runs a fish’n’chip trailer situated on the very border between territories. On the last day of The Millennium he meets a Flemish girl Wendy at a party and falls in love with her. He wakes up after the party to find that the government has erected a vast wall between the two territories overnight and that he is trapped on the Flemish side without a visa. The territory has become a totalitarian state where his friends are now encouraged to turn him in.”

http://www.moria.co.nz/fantasy/wall98.htm

Hardly a vision to give any credence to AbuNimah’s fantasy, which is, of course, not a fantasy of a bi-national statehood so much as it is a hallucinated prescription for the destruction of the Palestinian Jews.

The bitter thought occurs that while it is possible to see Belgium go through a mutually-beneficial divorce arrangement, it is impossible to imagine the Palestinians contain themselves with anything like compromise and negotiations, should their coveted experiment fail.

The absurdity of Abunimah’s proposition of looking at Belgium for inspiration can only be enhannced by the image of Palestinian nationalistic ethos: implacable resentment, deathbearing talk, violence and revenge.

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