Comments on: The UCU and David Duke http://blog.z-word.com/2008/08/the-ucu-and-david-duke/ Commentary about Zionism, anti-Zionism, antisemitism and the conflict in the Middle East Thu, 09 Feb 2012 05:29:00 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5-RC1.1 By: sackcloth and ashes http://blog.z-word.com/2008/08/the-ucu-and-david-duke/#comment-1177 sackcloth and ashes Wed, 27 Aug 2008 14:42:19 +0000 http://blog.z-word.com/?p=259#comment-1177 "'There is much evidence to warrant an in-depth investigation of the role played by agents of Israel in the 9-11 attacks.Yet the ubiquitous, tiresome and completely baseless threat of being labelled “anti-Semitic” for criticising the actions of the Israeli government effectively prevents all but the most courageous from following the leads. Coincidence? We think not…. Just what level of power do Israeli interests wield in the halls of power in the US that any investigation into Israeli spying activities on US soil against US intelligence agencies can be so completely quashed? Would this constitute a level of power and control that would allow those interests to carry off a terrorist attack like 9-11 and have it blamed on “Arab terrorists”?' Most assuredly…. Moreover, in the same article Joe Quinn links to the web site of the Holocaust Denier David Irving with his following comment: 'On the morning of September 11th and just as the WTC towers were crumbling the 5 Israelis were caught doing the “happy dance” as they videotaped the Twin Towers fall.'" Anti-Semitism is as endemic within the 9/11 'Truth (AKA Lies) movement' as it is amongst the UCU activists pushing for a boycott. No lie, no smear, no base act of Jew-hatred is too contemptible for them: http://www.911myths.com/html/4000_israelis.html http://www.911myths.com/html/zim_shipping.html http://www.911myths.com/html/odigo.html http://www.911myths.com/html/dancing_israelis.html http://slate.msn.com/id/116813 http://www.nocturne.org/~terry/wtc_4000_Israeli.html “‘There is much evidence to warrant an in-depth investigation of the role played by agents of Israel in the 9-11 attacks.Yet the ubiquitous, tiresome and completely baseless threat of being labelled “anti-Semitic” for criticising the actions of the Israeli government effectively prevents all but the most courageous from following the leads. Coincidence? We think not….

Just what level of power do Israeli interests wield in the halls of power in the US that any investigation into Israeli spying activities on US soil against US intelligence agencies can be so completely quashed? Would this constitute a level of power and control that would allow those interests to carry off a terrorist attack like 9-11 and have it blamed on “Arab terrorists”?’

Most assuredly….

Moreover, in the same article Joe Quinn links to the web site of the Holocaust Denier David Irving with his following comment:

‘On the morning of September 11th and just as the WTC towers were crumbling the 5 Israelis were caught doing the “happy dance” as they videotaped the Twin Towers fall.’”

Anti-Semitism is as endemic within the 9/11 ‘Truth (AKA Lies) movement’ as it is amongst the UCU activists pushing for a boycott. No lie, no smear, no base act of Jew-hatred is too contemptible for them:

http://www.911myths.com/html/4000_israelis.html
http://www.911myths.com/html/zim_shipping.html
http://www.911myths.com/html/odigo.html
http://www.911myths.com/html/dancing_israelis.html
http://slate.msn.com/id/116813
http://www.nocturne.org/~terry/wtc_4000_Israeli.html

]]> By: Ben http://blog.z-word.com/2008/08/the-ucu-and-david-duke/#comment-1167 Ben Tue, 26 Aug 2008 18:08:10 +0000 http://blog.z-word.com/?p=259#comment-1167 Ben White, are you not getting confused with Hamas? Are you unaware that, in March, al Aqsa TV called upon children to form a human shield around a building in Gaza they thought would be targeted by the IDF? Let me remind you - for the last time - that this thread is about a UCU member promoting the website of a neo-Nazi. Any comments not relating to this will henceforth be deleted. And you can whine all you like about "censorship", "muzzling" and all the other baseless CANARDS - frankly, given the disgraceful onslaught of your boycotter friends against Harry's Place, we're not interested. At which point, let me remind you all to visit, and encourage others to visit, http://jennadelich.blogspot.com/. Ben White, are you not getting confused with Hamas? Are you unaware that, in March, al Aqsa TV called upon children to form a human shield around a building in Gaza they thought would be targeted by the IDF?

Let me remind you - for the last time - that this thread is about a UCU member promoting the website of a neo-Nazi. Any comments not relating to this will henceforth be deleted. And you can whine all you like about “censorship”, “muzzling” and all the other baseless CANARDS - frankly, given the disgraceful onslaught of your boycotter friends against Harry’s Place, we’re not interested. At which point, let me remind you all to visit, and encourage others to visit, http://jennadelich.blogspot.com/.

]]> By: Ben White http://blog.z-word.com/2008/08/the-ucu-and-david-duke/#comment-1166 Ben White Tue, 26 Aug 2008 17:42:46 +0000 http://blog.z-word.com/?p=259#comment-1166 @Ben Cohen "we don’t permit hate speech and malicious rumor posing as fact...None of these canards - yes, I will use that word - has any basis in reality." It seems that even the Israeli human rights organisation B'Tselem has been involved in promoting the maliciously false canard about Israel using human shields as young as 11. http://www.btselem.org/english/Testimonies/20070228_Human_Shields_in_Nablus_witness_Jihan_Daadush.asp @Ben Cohen

“we don’t permit hate speech and malicious rumor posing as fact…None of these canards - yes, I will use that word - has any basis in reality.”

It seems that even the Israeli human rights organisation B’Tselem has been involved in promoting the maliciously false canard about Israel using human shields as young as 11.

http://www.btselem.org/english/Testimonies/20070228_Human_Shields_in_Nablus_witness_Jihan_Daadush.asp

]]> By: Ben http://blog.z-word.com/2008/08/the-ucu-and-david-duke/#comment-1162 Ben Tue, 26 Aug 2008 14:56:23 +0000 http://blog.z-word.com/?p=259#comment-1162 Modernity, thanks. All - get the word out. Let's direct as much traffic as we can to the HP back up. "Ibrahim," you are probably wondering why your comment has not been posted. Well, we don't permit hate speech and malicious rumor posing as fact. Part of your comment read as follows: “Jews poison wells in the West Bank with the condoning of the Israeli government” “Barack Obama changed his views on the Palestinian-Israeli conflict under pressure from AIPAC” “Israel uses human shields as young as 11″ “There is an attempt by Zionist and Jewish institutions, like ADL, to muzzle free speech regarding Israel” “Israel advocates try to shut up Israel critics in blogs by making undue queries about their identities and unsustained allegations of antisemitism” None of these canards - yes, I will use that word - has any basis in reality. Moreover, your choice of words ("Jews poison wells..") is clearly designed to provoke. Your strategy is to enable antisemitism while denying that it exists. You are perfectly free to say these things on your own blog. We will not legitimize them here. Modernity, thanks. All - get the word out. Let’s direct as much traffic as we can to the HP back up.

“Ibrahim,” you are probably wondering why your comment has not been posted. Well, we don’t permit hate speech and malicious rumor posing as fact.

Part of your comment read as follows:

“Jews poison wells in the West Bank with the condoning of the Israeli government”
“Barack Obama changed his views on the Palestinian-Israeli conflict under pressure from AIPAC”
“Israel uses human shields as young as 11″
“There is an attempt by Zionist and Jewish institutions, like ADL, to muzzle free speech regarding Israel”
“Israel advocates try to shut up Israel critics in blogs by making undue queries about their identities and unsustained allegations of antisemitism”

None of these canards - yes, I will use that word - has any basis in reality. Moreover, your choice of words (”Jews poison wells..”) is clearly designed to provoke. Your strategy is to enable antisemitism while denying that it exists.

You are perfectly free to say these things on your own blog. We will not legitimize them here.

]]> By: modernity http://blog.z-word.com/2008/08/the-ucu-and-david-duke/#comment-1161 modernity Tue, 26 Aug 2008 13:57:55 +0000 http://blog.z-word.com/?p=259#comment-1161 HP has been attacked, and is functioning from a backup blog, http://jennadelich.blogspot.com/ HP has been attacked, and is functioning from a backup blog, http://jennadelich.blogspot.com/

]]> By: shriber http://blog.z-word.com/2008/08/the-ucu-and-david-duke/#comment-1156 shriber Mon, 25 Aug 2008 19:51:15 +0000 http://blog.z-word.com/?p=259#comment-1156 "What is Yusuf’s definition of antisemitism?" His definition is like that of Humpty-Dumpty when he says: "When I use a word," Humpty Dumpty said in a rather a scornful tone, "it means just what I choose it to mean -- neither more nor less." “What is Yusuf’s definition of antisemitism?”

His definition is like that of Humpty-Dumpty when he says:

“When I use a word,” Humpty Dumpty said in a rather a scornful tone, “it means just what I choose it to mean — neither more nor less.”

]]> By: Noga http://blog.z-word.com/2008/08/the-ucu-and-david-duke/#comment-1154 Noga Mon, 25 Aug 2008 17:37:26 +0000 http://blog.z-word.com/?p=259#comment-1154 What is Yusuf's definition of antisemitism? I have asked him on Engage, on my blog and now I'm asking here. He has to tell us what antisemitic discourse is, what it includes, what it excludes, what is its purpose and what language it uses. If he can't do that, then he can't make the claim that an article is not antisemitic. What is Yusuf’s definition of antisemitism? I have asked him on Engage, on my blog and now I’m asking here. He has to tell us what antisemitic discourse is, what it includes, what it excludes, what is its purpose and what language it uses. If he can’t do that, then he can’t make the claim that an article is not antisemitic.

]]> By: Matt http://blog.z-word.com/2008/08/the-ucu-and-david-duke/#comment-1153 Matt Mon, 25 Aug 2008 17:08:05 +0000 http://blog.z-word.com/?p=259#comment-1153 Ben, I think you're being too generous in presuming over her protestations that Delich would know who Duke is. I guess, though, she's revealed more about herself than that she's prone to pushing blatant antisemitism. <a href="http://ignoblus.blogspot.com/2008/08/how-not-to-drive-drunk-or-what-can-be.html" rel="nofollow">My take on that</a>: <blockquote>So, over in Boycotting Britania, a certain member of the UCU (that's the union for university professors) has "accidentally" recommended something on David Duke's website. I put "accidentally" in quotes not because I think it was intentional but because I think it's like getting into a car accident while driving drunk.</blockquote> Ben, I think you’re being too generous in presuming over her protestations that Delich would know who Duke is. I guess, though, she’s revealed more about herself than that she’s prone to pushing blatant antisemitism. My take on that:

So, over in Boycotting Britania, a certain member of the UCU (that’s the union for university professors) has “accidentally” recommended something on David Duke’s website. I put “accidentally” in quotes not because I think it was intentional but because I think it’s like getting into a car accident while driving drunk.

]]> By: shriber http://blog.z-word.com/2008/08/the-ucu-and-david-duke/#comment-1152 shriber Mon, 25 Aug 2008 16:39:50 +0000 http://blog.z-word.com/?p=259#comment-1152 "It was claimed that the article Jenna linked to is antisemitic, and part of the evidence were the remarks made there about AIPAC and its influence on US foreign policy." I made that claim, and the article is antisemitic. You didn't say AIPAC "influenced" US foreign policy it said it controlled it. Your claim was that: "All of you seem to think that because an accusation was once falsely made against the Jews, that accusation will always be false. Thus, if the Jews were falsely accused of trying to dominate the world in The Protocols, that means that AIPAC doesn't want to control American foreign policy." http://www.engageonline.org.uk/blog/comment.php?id=2058 So stop lying Argenenean Jew hater! You are not someone people should be taking seriously. “It was claimed that the article Jenna linked to is antisemitic, and part of the evidence were the remarks made there about AIPAC and its influence on US foreign policy.”

I made that claim, and the article is antisemitic.

You didn’t say AIPAC “influenced” US foreign policy it said it controlled it.

Your claim was that:

“All of you seem to think that because an accusation was once falsely made against the Jews, that accusation will always be false. Thus, if the Jews were falsely accused of trying to dominate the world in The Protocols, that means that AIPAC doesn’t want to control American foreign policy.”

http://www.engageonline.org.uk/blog/comment.php?id=2058

So stop lying Argenenean Jew hater!

You are not someone people should be taking seriously.

]]> By: Pele yoetz http://blog.z-word.com/2008/08/the-ucu-and-david-duke/#comment-1151 Pele yoetz Mon, 25 Aug 2008 16:25:19 +0000 http://blog.z-word.com/?p=259#comment-1151 The best argument was made by David Hirsh over at HP who postulated that doesn't anyone at all in the UCU pro-boycotters list pause to think that their views are identical to those in which David Duke believes? The best argument was made by David Hirsh over at HP who postulated that doesn’t anyone at all in the UCU pro-boycotters list pause to think that their views are identical to those in which David Duke believes?

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